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10. Hey! I can’t believe this. A great testimony that i must share to all cancer patient in the world i never believed that their could be any complete cure for lung cancer or any cancer,i saw people’s testimony on blog sites of how Rick Simpson cannabis oil brought them back to life again. i had to try it too and you can,t believe that in just few weeks i started using it all my pains stop gradually and i had to leave without the drugs the doctor gave to me. Right now i can tell you that few months now i have not had any pain, and i have just went for text last week and the doctor confirmed that there is no trace of any cancer system. Glory be to God for leading me to this genuine to Risk Simpson. I am so happy as i am sharing this testimony. My advice to you all who thinks that their is no cure for cancer that is Not true ,just contact him and get cannabis oil from Rick Simpson to your cancer and you will be free and free for ever, Try it and you will not regret it because it truly works. One thing i have come to realize is that you never know how true it is until you try. There is no harm in trying. Remember, delay in treatment leads to death. Here is his email: ricksimpsonmedicalservice@yandex.com Contact him and be free from cancer!

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12. Thank you WEED,
    For your response and YOUR courtesy.
    It is much appreciated.
    Wayne T

13. Wayne T Pickett 
    I am clueless re ‘linkedin’…

    Hope you enjoy the books…much look forward to hearing from you…

14. G’day Hugh,
    Sorry, I was a bit confused and thought we were on linkedIn – I should have a look and see if you have an entry on that site – that’s a place with people “connect” with other people who have similar interests or ambitions thus the request for a “connect” – My mistake..
    I WILL send you an email, thank you, and by the way I went to the Amazon site -your book looks fascinating and interesting. I must say I love the title, the price is right and I will now have to buy it, you salesmen you. *Grin*
    All the best,
    Wayne T

15. Yes, it is completely ridiculous, Almost criminal, is it not, HempMeister?

16. That is completely out rages, Dave.

17. ATTENTION MODERATOR!
    COULD YOU PLEASE DELETE THE FIRST of the ‘duplicate’ posts above…
    (&maybe increase the edit time, OR add ‘delete ‘ button so we have a ‘Workaround’ available?)
    Thank you
    Wayne T

18. Sorry – ran out of editing time below is a corrected version of the post above. Sorry for the inconvenience (this form does not have a delete button otherwise I would get rid of the first post – I guess that makes this the last post *smile)
    I ran out of editing time but wanted to give ONE example of ‘Gentle/Secret “teaching. & testing”for those interested – obviously this particular type of technique could work with any child. It’s how these kids learned to read and spell fluently at a very very young age. Just by playing a game which they loved – no kid is in love with “being taught”. and they all hate “testing “.
    In this game now about being taught and being tested – and of course they are learning to read and spell.
    (Paste)
    (An example of a secret learning & testing game: I was with them in bed one arm around them, (few kids don’t love a cuddle), the book in front so they could see the words & the pictures and I would read to them.
    After a while I would deliberately start making ‘mistakes’ – and would read straight on.
    They of course would pounce on this and say ” no dad it’s not Fred it says RED!. I would pretend confusion. ” no, I can see it says fred, right there on the page WITHOUT pointing to it. “Show me” .
    The child WOULD point directly to it, would point directly to the word and say “SEE,it says red R- E -D – RED!. “. I would say “sorry, you’re right.”….
    They LOVED correcting me/catching me out -and of course watched all the more closely to make sure they didn’t miss the chance to catch “daddy “in a mistake.
    We WOULD READ ON AND after another few paragraphs with them watching LIKE HUNGRY HAWKS, I would of course make another MISTAKE
    (“Silly Daddy…” 🙂
    And the game would continue…
    They loved it. Every night they begged me to play the reading game!.
    (sorry about the caps a mistake with Siri -as explained elsewhere I have an injured right arm and can’t type, must dictate using Siri and then edit. Unfortunately I don’t always catch her mistakes in time.)
    And so they learn to read at a very young age, they learned to spell, and they did it playing a game they really loved. They were learning and being tested without ever thinking of it as such. And I think that was a good thing.
    Best wishes to all
    Wayne T

19. I ran out of editing time but wanted to give an example for those interested – obviously this particular type of technique could work with any child. It’s how these kids learned to read and spell fluently at a very very young age. Just by playing a game which they loved – no kid is in love with “being taught”. and they all hate “testing “. In this game now about being taught and being tested – and of course they are learning to read and spell.
    (Paste)
    (An example of a secret learning a testing game: I was with them in bed one arm around them, the book in front so they could see the words & the pictures and I would read to them.
    After a while I would deliberately start making ‘mistakes’. They of course would pounce on this and say ” no dad it’s not Fred it says RED!. I would pretend confusion. ” no, I can see it says fred, right there on the page WITHOUT pointing to it. The child WOULD point directly to it, would point directly to the word and say “see it says red R- E -D – RED!. “. I would say “sorry, you’re right.”….
    They LOVED correcting me. We WOULD READ ON AND after another few paragraphs with them watching LIKE HUNGRY HAWKS, I would of course make another MISTAKE
    (“Silly Daddy…” 🙂
    And the game would continue (sorry about the caps a mistake with Siri)
    And so they learn to read at a very young age, they learned to spell, and they did it playing a game they really loved. They were learning and being tested without ever thinking of it as such. And I think that was a good thing.
    Best wishes to all
    Wayne T

20. Wayne T Pickett I did notice! What I wrote about our community being wonderful, I meant 100%. 
    Many blessings!

21. Thank you weed-the-people.
    You may note that I have endeavoured to be courteous and in one of my recent posts called for just that. It was not I Who started this silliness and I would welcome an end to it.
    With best wishes to all (and malice toward none)
    Wayne T

22. Wayne T Pickett msimon6808 Let’s keep everything friendly here. I’ve noticed that the discussion on this comment thread has been 99% about the substantive – and important – issues at play. That’s awesome and it’s a tribute to our wonderful community.
    I know that emotions run high with ~700,000 pointless arrests per year. Let’s just make sure that we keep the debate on this site about the issues. We’re starting to veer a little too close to personal attacks at this point.

23. MSimon6808: I am always learning. I never stop. I learn from everyone from the local Garbos, locala doctors, the bloke next door, the man in the street and people I read on forums. I have what they call an “open mind”.
    I do try not to insult them – and I try to be generally courteous something you apparently have not yet mastered. I wish you luck in your endeavours in that direction.
    That is of course presuming you HAVE any endeavours in that direction. They are so far not apparent.
    Best wishes
    Wayne T

24. I’m surprised to find an engineer who apparently can’t read.
    I DID say I used YOUR search terms and they included “NIH cannabis Tumour”.
    And I’m well aware of the endocannabinoids. & receptors – don’t know about “immune system” however..
    Just how solid is the scientific evidence?
    A bit more solid than your case for “cures cancer “, I hope….
    Have you looked up psychoneuroimmunnology?
    -Or is your own prejudice and ignorance getting the better of you?
    If you look. It up, let me know if you need a hand with any of the big words.
    *Laugh*
    WAYNE T

25. Wayne T Pickett Well you may “know” but the evidence you have given here shows you haven’t “studied”. You might want to correct that. Or not.

26. Wayne T Pickett 
    “People who believe in these miracle cancer cures usually also believie in UFOs and similar”
    I guess that would include the NIH.
    Look up “nih cannabis tumor” 
    And you might want to study “endocannabinoid immune system”. Just in case your ignorance is getting the better of you.  Heck you might even want to look up “endocannabinoid system”. 

    But it doesn’t matter. The youth will be looking it up and eventually they will turn to cannabis for medicinal purposes. Esp. in recreational states where there is no or little restriction on use.

27. (People who believe in these miracle cancer cures usually also believie in UFOs and similar)

28. Of course the abuse causes mental problems etc. This is perfectly understandable. But one. Association is not true because you auntie. And two. The great majority of heroin Users were not sexually abused.

29. MSimon 6808, you do not need to explain PTSD to me – I have known what that is for over 20 years -and I might add, I find that your silly attempts at condescension to be both ludicrous and offensive.
    BFN
    I think I’ll go outside and look for some UFOs

30. Msimon6808:Sure, I’ve looked.. (in the past). I’ve been researching cancer & treatments since I was 15 years old. I also started as a computer programmer on massive mainframes when I was 15 years old. Quickly became an assembly language/machine code OS systems programmer. One of the best.d
    And for your information mSimon6808 computer programmers are the most strictly logical people on the planet. They. Have to be. And holding that kinda job changes your mind for ever.
    I even used the search you recommended and found many interesting things.
    I did NOT find scientific studies proving that cannabis “CURES CANCER”in humans as you stated.
    There has been some success in vitro and in rats. As with many other drugs this has not yet translated into success in humans.
    If this was true daily pot smokers would not get cancer – and they do.
    Here is a quote from one site I found using your search parameters:-
    =====
    On cannabis, the information leads me to conclude there are some interesting scientific possibilities in using cannabinoids as a treatment for a variety of diseases and the symptoms. The number of receptors in our body would indicate they play some role in our every day biology. However, the attempts so far to find a blockbuster breakthrough on any particular disease using cannabinoids has failed. The human trials are either small and uncontrolled or have results that are not repeated in other studies. In vitro and and mouse studies also show promise, but the positive results are highly dependent on the target, mode of delivery, and dose. I can say with a fair amount of certainty that hemp oil itself is not a cure for cancer, nor a “safe” alternative to traditional medicine. Let’s use science to find the best medicines possible, not just the ones we all hope will work.
    In the title I placed the phrase “misunderstood motives.” I think perhaps people, including my family, can sometimes misunderstand my motivation for posting articles that temper the grand claims being made by their posts. I do so because I have a drive to help people better understand the scientific process. It was one of my motivations to return to school for my graduate degree. I also have a concern that those who read the grand claims of a miracle cure may turn to these treatments and cause themselves harm. The problem with miracle cures is they do not control for dose, they do not have any safety check for possible interactions with other medications, and the cures could turn out to be a huge waste of time and money that could be used for proven treatments. My motive in understanding the science and sharing it comes from something Dr. Steven Novella has said on more than one occasion: “Science is a process in which we make closer and closer estimations of the truth.” Science is not perfect, and it cannot claim to be the absolute truth. However, science is the closest we can get to the truth — and that is what motivates me.
    =====
    You may be an “old engineer “but your communications skills could certainly use polishing. (During my time in R and D in creating prototypes and “proof of concept” of Technology products I had personally initiated, a number of engineers worked for me – Interesting bunch of people. Fairly limited in their skill set and world view)
    Your various ludicrous and childish attempts at insult and condescension fail to impress and do not affect me in any way. I cannot be condescended to. You may check out my background on LinkedIn if you like – you may find it to be of interest: I am personally responsible for creating a number of the world class /world changing inventions: (paste)
    LinkedIn ‘Professional entry’ (somewhat terse & incomplete both for professional & site space limit reasons): http://www.tinyurl.com/Jodee-WayneT; please follow youtube links, READ COMMENTS under youtube entries…)
    I repeat week cured and upon relapse controlled and my wife’s stage at four: cancer ( terminal : prognosis 3 to 6 months ) are using PNI/psychoneuroimmunology and Captura lies for nine years well those in her peergroup dropping like flies much earlier. She had conventional FOLFOX/FOLFORIy chemotherapy (I even managed to get her on a trial of an anti-angiogenesis drug which was of great value) and WE used cannabis to help her deal with a vicious side effects of these highly toxic drugs. It worked. It made her life easier and in fact possible.
    PNI/psychoneuroimmunology is evidence-based science/evidence based medicine and there are numerous successful trials in humans that prove it. Unlike your claim that cancer is curable with cannabis. This is clearly NOT proven.
    I repeat I still see no convincing scientific evidence that CANNABIS CURES CANCER.
    Best wishes to all (and with malice toward none)
    WAYNE T

31. MSimon6808: Sure, I’ve looked.. (in the past). I’ve been researching cancer & treatments since I was 15 years old. I also started as a computer programmer on massive mainframes when I was 15 years old. Quickly became an assembly language/machine code OS systems programmer. One of the best.d
    And for your information mSimon6808 computer programmers are the most strictly logical people on the planet. They. Have to be. And holding that kinda job changes your mind for ever.
    I even used the search you recommended and found many interesting things.
    I did NOT find scientific studies proving that cannabis “CURES CANCER”in humans as you stated.
    There has been some success in vitro and in rats. As with many other drugs this has not yet translated into success in humans.
    If this was true daily pot smokers would not get cancer – and they do.
    Here is a quote from one site I found using your search parameters:-
    =====
    On cannabis, the information leads me to conclude there are some interesting scientific possibilities in using cannabinoids as a treatment for a variety of diseases and the symptoms. The number of receptors in our body would indicate they play some role in our every day biology. However, the attempts so far to find a blockbuster breakthrough on any particular disease using cannabinoids has failed. The human trials are either small and uncontrolled or have results that are not repeated in other studies. In vitro and and mouse studies also show promise, but the positive results are highly dependent on the target, mode of delivery, and dose. I can say with a fair amount of certainty that hemp oil itself is not a cure for cancer, nor a “safe” alternative to traditional medicine. Let’s use science to find the best medicines possible, not just the ones we all hope will work.
    In the title I placed the phrase “misunderstood motives.” I think perhaps people, including my family, can sometimes misunderstand my motivation for posting articles that temper the grand claims being made by their posts. I do so because I have a drive to help people better understand the scientific process. It was one of my motivations to return to school for my graduate degree. I also have a concern that those who read the grand claims of a miracle cure may turn to these treatments and cause themselves harm. The problem with miracle cures is they do not control for dose, they do not have any safety check for possible interactions with other medications, and the cures could turn out to be a huge waste of time and money that could be used for proven treatments. My motive in understanding the science and sharing it comes from something Dr. Steven Novella has said on more than one occasion: “Science is a process in which we make closer and closer estimations of the truth.” Science is not perfect, and it cannot claim to be the absolute truth. However, science is the closest we can get to the truth — and that is what motivates me.
    =====
    You may be an “old engineer “but your communications skills could certainly use polishing. (During my time in R and D in creating prototypes and “proof of concept” of Technology products I had personally initiated, a number of engineers worked for me – Interesting bunch of people. Fairly limited in their skill set and world view)
    Your various ludicrous and childish attempts at insult and condescension fail to impress and do not affect me in any way. I cannot be condescended to. You may check out my background on LinkedIn if you like – you may find it to be of interest: I am personally responsible for creating a number of the world class /world changing inventions: (paste)
    LinkedIn ‘Professional entry’ (somewhat terse & incomplete both for professional & site space limit reasons): http://www.tinyurl.com/Jodee-WayneT; please follow youtube links, READ COMMENTS under youtube entries…)
    I repeat week cured and upon relapse controlled and my wife’s stage at four: cancer ( terminal : prognosis 3 to 6 months ) are using PNI/psychoneuroimmunology and Captura lies for nine years well those in her peergroup dropping like flies much earlier. She had conventional FOLFOX/FOLFORIy chemotherapy (I even managed to get her on a trial of an anti-angiogenesis drug which was of great value) and WE used cannabis to help her deal with a vicious side effects of these highly toxic drugs. It worked. It made her life easier and in fact possible.
    PNI/psychoneuroimmunology is evidence-based science/evidence based medicine and there are numerous successful trials in humans that prove it. Unlike your claim that cancer is curable with cannabis. This is clearly NOT proven.
    I repeat I still see no convincing scientific evidence that CANNABIS CURES CANCER.
    Best wishes to all (and with malice toward none)
    WAYNE T

32. Sure, I’ve looked.. Bracket in the past). I’ve been researching Catherine Kassik kill sisters 15 news old. I also started as a computer programmer on massive line frames when I was 15 years old.
    And for your information and S Simon 6808 computer programmers of the most logical people on the planet. They has to be. And holding that kinda job trend is your mind for ever.
    I even used to search you recommended and found many interesting things.
    I did not find scientific studies proving that cannabis “Prasse “in humans as you stated.
    There has been some success in vitro and in rats. As with many other drugs this is not yet translated into success in humans.
    This is true Balie pot smokers would not be cancer – and they do.
    Here is a quote from one site I found using your search parameters:

33. Wayne T Pickett 
    What’s up?

    My e address is:  

    My page on Amazon is:
    http://www.amazon.com/Hugh-Yonn/e/B0080Q13K2/ref=sr_tc_2_0?qid=1383323918&sr=1-2-entg

34. HughYonn Witchwindy RickSteeb hempmeister Moi_Encore msimon6808 nice…. i like that 😉

35. Hey Hugh (once again)
    Sorry about the incoherence of the previous post I have problems with this website. I am using an iPad and the website misbehaves something terrible and will not let me edit comments. Due to a hand injury I have to use Siri apples excellent voice text application and she makes mistakes. I have to correct them this website sometimes will not let me do that. What I wished to say was you I would like to connect. I believe we think along similar lines and I may be of considerable value to you and your efforts.

36. Hey Hugh! (Sounds rather appropriate:)
    Would you please connecte with me as a start I’d like to talk to you about possible joint opportunities. But I believe in thinking maybe along similar lines and I could be the Allegood get available to you.

37. Witchwindy RickSteeb hempmeister HughYonn Moi_Encore msimon6808 
    I was standing in a large field of hemp in the early 1970’s.  In the great state of Kansas.  Just at sunrise, I watched as a light breeze puffed by…along with a cloud of just released pollen from the male plants… Quite a show…
    I’ll never forget it…

38. RickSteeb hempmeister HughYonn Moi_Encore msimon6808 Hemp pollen is large and heavy and doesn’t travel far on the wind, not likely to affect a cannabis crop across the road.

39. Dave Evans_Livefyre freakalweek Not all of them, my doctor asks me about cannabis every time I go in for a checkup, last visit I gave him a printout of the pic on the cannabinoids I just posted in this thread.

40. Dave Evans_Livefyre freakalweek It has way more helpful cannabinoids than just CBD and THC, here is a graphic which explains it clearly, and a second one that lists some of the uses for the hemp plant.:

41. The NIH comes out with some science that says there is such a thing as endocannabinoid deficiency. And further they state:

    Further research and especially, clinical trials will further
    demonstrate the usefulness of medical cannabis. As legal barriers fall
    and scientific bias fades this will become more apparent.
    http://classicalvalues.com/2014/11/a-deficiency-disease/

42. Dave Evans_Livefyre Cassie Miller I think what she meant was that in cannabis plants the males and females are easily determined, they look different, that is not true of most plants.

43. asdfxxx Hz2P The “laws” which criminalized cannabis are not valid laws, they are all unconstitutional and merely statutes, because the Constitution itself did not grant to the fed gov the power to do this, and no amendment to the Constitution has ever been passed by congress and ratified by the States to allow the fed gov to so much as regulate what substances people choose to ingest let alone ban some of those substances.  

    No one is required to obey an unconstitutional statute, as SCOTUS ruled:
    The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be in agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows:
    The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of its enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it.
    An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted.
    Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it . . .
    A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one.
    An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law.
    Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the land, it is superseded thereby.
    No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.
    – Sixteenth American Jurisprudence, Second Edition, Section 177. (late 2nd Ed. Section 256)

44. msimon6808 Wayne T Pickett Rick Simpson Oil cures cancer in about 90 days for about $1000.00.  It is a full extract CAnnabis indica oil, about 95% THC.  People who have cancer should definitely spend $9.99 to download his book which clearly explains the process of making the oil and how to use it.  You can find a link to the book here:
    https://www.facebook.com/ricksimpsonofficial

45. msimon6808 Wayne T Pickett MDMA works better at curing PTSD, and cannabis is better at controlling it.  

    MDMA can often do the job in one session (with a licensed psychologist), but it is hard to find a licensed psychologist who is willing to risk the consequences in using that drug to treat patients because doing so is illegal — the DEA will not free it to be studied for it’s ability to solve many mental health issues like PTSD, nor to be utilized in treatment of patients.  MDMA works because it allows the person using it to recognize the triggers for PTSD as something they need not be triggered by, and it also allows them to accept their own faults.  I’ve never suffered from PTSD, but I have done MDMA before, many times (not the stuff they pass off as MDMA these days, but the real, pure MDMA that was around before the DEA put it on the CSA, so I am very familiar with its beneficial effects on one’s mental health.

    Use of cannabis helps people with PTSD live with the trauma and control the incidence of flashback situations, it is good to use while sufferers wait for actual help from the medical community using such drugs as MDMA, and psilocybin (another drug which is showing signs of being helpful for PTSD).

46. op25ttfd AronKay The vast majority of people who sell cannabis on the black market sell nothing other than cannabis, the kind of dealers you are talking about are few and far between in the cannabis black market.  The dealers in serious drugs are most likely to be found in high crime areas in large metropolitan centers.

47. You have to be kidding ma’am – to compare anything like this with Einsteins work. Is not even in the same class. God bless.

48. hempmeister HughYonn Moi_Encore msimon6808 Hemp is wonderful… Just keep it the hell away from our outdoor med crops!

49. @hempmeister @msimon6808 @HughYonn 
    I’m with you. 
    But, there ain’t no ‘coming to terms’ with it.  It’s been complete fabrication since its inception. 
    Lie after lie after lie…
    The big issue now seems to be, how best to handle ‘damage control’???
    What’s ‘our’ government going to say?  “Hey, folks…we were just kiddin'”

50. HughYonn Moi_Encore msimon6808  Designed to spark the hemp revolution here in the land of the free… our Hemp Farm Kits could be a point of discussion leading into the upcoming 2016 elections. Americans living in CO and WA will be able to buy kits and start their own personal hemp farms. The result – people in other States demanding the right to start their own personal hemp farms. Who could be against that? Hemp = prosperity!

51. msimon6808 HughYonn I’m still trying to come to terms with hemp being considered a Schedule 1 drug!

52. Wayne T Pickett They have a program in the south, actually several to keep people from being able to vote.  They made it illegal for felons to vote.  However, they then turned around and turned a bunch of non-felonies into felonies.  Selling marijuana a felony…  How???  Selling laced marijuana that has poisons on it is a felony…  How is selling marijuana worthy of “felony status”???  And they don’t even bother bringing any evidence to court that you were selling, they just say something illegal like, “Well he had this much marijuana, so he must have been selling”.  It is trial by hearsay, not legitimate and designed to limit the public’s ability to have a say in how the government is run.

    Criminals (Dixiecrats and KKK) run the governments down south.

53. Dave Evans_Livefyre HughYonn msimon6808 and Wayne T Pickett… 
    I don’t want to get hit with a ‘voter fraud’ charge…I spent 5 years in Federal Prison for my pot offense…
    Prison and jail… No fun…
    But, once cannabis is legal…I expect nothing less than a full pardon…
    Many thanks for your comment… All of these comments…

54. Quote
    Cassie Miller No, the cannabis is not the only plant which is divided into males and females. Try learning more about plants! They are very interesting./end quote
    Yes – and marijuana to the best of my knowledge is unusual in that female plants sometimes have a few male flowers on them I’m not sure that vice versa is true. But if you use the pollen from those male flowers to fertilise a female you will always get female plants..
    I have done this for years
    Best wishes to all and good luck to you in Florida
    Wayne T

55. You gotta be kidding – do they really do that? Is it even constitutional? You have sincere sympathy and best wishes.
    Wayne T

56. In Australia the saying goes “apathy is probably Australia’s number one problem –
    but who cares ”
    *Smile*

57. You Are damn right, Dave.
    More power to you
    best wishes,
    Wayne T

58. Dave Evans_Livefyre Wayne T Pickett  Well I have an engineers view of the situation. Working with reality is my stock in trade. I have made quite a good living from it.

59. HughYonn Because Evil Never Dies.

60. HughYonn msimon6808 Go ahead and register to vote anyway.  Those idiots in the Florida government probably don’t even file their records right.  There is nothing a person can do with marijuana that warrants their loosing their right to vote.  The law itself is a crime.  Go vote!

61. Wayne T Pickett This is an explanation, circa 1996:

    http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/propain/contentsunderpressure.html#7
    This is what happens to your mind when propaganda is running the show.  You support stupid policies.

62. Rubbish, asdfxxxx
    It would appear you are incapable of thinking, know nothing of history justice nor the right thing to do for the benefit of other human beings.

63. I agree with you completely, Eddie and would also added that prescription and over-the-counter medicines harm & kill vastly more people than ALL of the illegal drugs put together.
    WHY DON’T THE PUBLIC APPEAR TO KNOW ABOUT THAT?
    Because people are making a bucket load of money out of it.
    Best wishes to all

64. How badly stress seriously compensate all of the people who have suffered and his families and friends have suffered the sanity years with serious amounts of money from the idiots in the government is responsible.
    Then and only then will it be history, mate.

65. Sheer rubbish, asdfxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Are you entirely incapable of THINKING. For yourself?
    If THEY. Made kindness & decent behaviour illegal (& believe me, they could – “state security, ya know…”) I spose you’d sit quietly by & support that.
    Seems to me that it is unread, unthinking ppl like you who have made the current insanity possible.
    THE LAW has some poor people in jail for >30 years for possessing a harmless bloody weed.
    WTH. Is wrong with you? – and the bloody people like you?

66. Small box. Dave evans. *laugh*
    WAYNE T

67. Cassie Miller No, the cannabis is not the only plant which is divided into males and females.  Try learning more about plants!  They are very interesting.

68. DebbieLeeBrown asdfxxx Hz2P “And without looking at any sort of studies i would imagine that the people that smoke pot because they need to is a fraction of the amount of people who do so because they want to.”
    Oh, you mean like how “free people” should be able to?  People want to grow, sell and smoke marijuana.  This is a land of the free, the police should be offering to light our joints!

69. freakalweek They are smart, but are trained to keep their minds in a box.

70. msimon6808 Cassie Miller Witchwindy BenDMartinez  If we have to go all the way back to the Native American lifestyle to change how we live and start living in HARMONY with the planet on which we live, we should.  If we have to give up our nuclear wars…., then so be it.  If we can’t find a CLEAN way to fly through the skies, then so be it.  Personally I think we CAN.  It’s just that EVERY time someone comes up with a CLEAN CAR, a CLEAN/NATURAL “medicine,” a CLEAN/ORGANIC good food, etc, a producer of DIRTY competitive product SHUTS IT DOWN.  If we stop buying into the “dirty” (in more ways than one) guys, then clean everything will prevail, somehow.  It just will.

71. Wayne T Pickett  ‘don’t have much time right now, but ‘had to reply to this one.  There is a TON of “evidence” that cannabis cures: cancer, seizures, superbugs, …..  The GOVT. has a PATENT on the cbd’s listing cannabis as a “neuroprotectant” and superior agent against super bugs.  I run a hemp site and keep an eye on several others, including one on Facebook called “Cannabis Cures Cancer.” You should check it out (mine is Hemp for Life).  Also look up on Youtube.com “Rick Simpson’s The Cure.”  There you’ll find the history of a man who, FOR FREE, processed a bunch of cannabis into a concentrated cannabis oil and cured many Canadians of cancer, only to be shut down by the greedy, jealous, Canadian govt…. I’ve seen HUNDREDS of personal testimonies on these FB sites since I became a hemp activist about 5 years ago.  Particularly impressive are some time lapsed photograph shown of cannabis oil cuing skin cancer.  Even mainstream Dr. Sanjay Gupta admits now, and showed on “60 Minutes” that cannabis is proving to cure seizures.  There’s also a good presentation by a Dr. Hills that explains WHY/HOW cannabis cures so many ailments, spoken via cellular explanations.  There are also several impressive presentations showing that our bodies were actually BUILT TO COINCIDE with cannabis, i.e. there are CBD RECEPTORS ALL OVER OUR BODIES FOR the intake of cannabis.  It’s as though we were MEANT to consume it, just as we wer MEANT to consume water, in order to maintain homeostasis!

72. Wayne T Pickett Right, the vast majority doesn’t get raped, but apparently heroin addicts are in a group of people who were abused sexually.  The abuse causes mental problems and they look to drugs to “escape”.

73. Cassie Miller msimon6808 Witchwindy BenDMartinez I don’t believe I ever said it wasn’t possible. What I said was that the economics currently don’t support it. 

    You might want to look up “wind turbine fires” and “wind turbine bearing fires”. People are putting up shoddy windmills just good enough to collect the government subsidies.

    And AE doesn’t integrate well with the grid and won’t until we get very cheap storage. 

    People are dying in England from energy poverty. And that is because they went for wind in a big way. I’d hate to see that happen here. 

    And then California. Where business is leaving because of the high cost of electrical energy. But I actually favor that. Illinois can use all the help it can get.

    You ought to read some of my newspaper articles from 15 years back when I was a big wind supporter. And then I learned how it actually works. And how the grid works. I changed my mind. 

    There is nothing clean about multi-tons of cement left in the ground from a defunct windmill after the subsidy runs out and the windmill dies. The same will be true of all the solar installations we are subsidizing. Let them pay their own way. And just to give you a clue. As a start we could reduce all subsidies to the same dollars per KWh. Wind and solar get huge subsidies by that measure. Not just huge. Ginormous. Is is how they profit. At your expense.

74. I guess you are either can’t read or can’t comprehend the things I say. I do more research on the average day then you would do in a month. Have a nice day.
    Game over.
    Wayne T

75. msimon6808 Moi_Encore HughYonn 
    I don’t think we’ll see it at a dollar a Z… I’ve talked with folks who’ve worked just in ‘trimming’…very tedious and time consuming…
    I look forward to growing my own… In my front yard…

76. @Dave Evans_Livefyre I agree all they really do is try and mimic THC. My feeling is because they do not want us to be able to use Marijuana with them the money mongars that want to control it. I hate that they think they can control an herb. I believe Marijuana was a gift to us to use. Not just for smoking but for cooking and more. But even being in an illegal state even some pain clinics do not even drug test for marijuana. Now my Pain Dr now says that he will not prescribe marijuana even if it was to go Medicinal in Indiana because it is still harmful because its still smoking. Well all I can say is he will lose me and many other patients if that’s the case. Making THC synthetic means its missing some of the most important parts of this miracle plant. You think Dr’s would be smarter.

77. HughYonn Moi_Encore msimon6808 Change? Do everything you can to make it happen.

78. Moi_Encore HughYonn msimon6808 Profit seekers will drive down the prices. It is the way things work unless government interferes. 

    We are going to want hot house growing to prevent contamination from the hemp fields. Hot house growing will raise prices some. 

    $10 lbs means $1 ozs. Seems pretty reasonable to me for high quality product with no special taxes. And that means year around growing – under lights in the winter. The electricity will have to be paid for. And if for medicinal varieties? Dirt cheap considering the benefits. Don’t forget the cost of assays for commercial products.

    Everybody wants to profit. Even you. I see nothing wrong with profit. Even high profits. You determine what you are willing to pay. As long as government stays out of the way.

79. Wayne T Pickett What’s the point you don’t know the field? And you have yet to do even a little research. There is no point in confusing you with facts. And you will not be confused by them if you don’t look at them. Good for you.

80. Wayne T Pickett You have never seen any solid evidence? You haven’t looked. Try this search “NIH cannabis cancer”. 
    Some (all?) cancer cells have cannabinoid receptors that cause cell apoptosis. You can try “cancer cannabis apoptosis”. Evidently your education has not included how the human endocannabinoid system works. 

    But I don’t expect even evidence to change your mind. 

    And just to get more amusement out of you. Ebola kills by cytokine storm. Try “cannabis cytokine”. 

    BTW the endocannabinoid system regulates every system in the body and can stop at least some autoimmune attacks. “cannabis diabetes autoimmune” should engender more hilarity from you.

81. Wayne T Pickett  The majority of females don’t use opiates either. But let us start again.

    Dr. Lonny Shavelson found that 70% of female heroin users were sexually abused in childhood.

    The sample is <b>female heroin users</b>. 

    And it really doesn’t matter what Occam’s razor says. The data is supreme. In science. The sample size was 200. So the margin of error is less than 7% for a 95% confidence interval. For a 99% confidence interval the MOE is 9%. 

    BTW – if you read Shavelson’s work he couldn’t believe it either. So he enlarged his sample size to be sure. 

    You want to believe heroin is an addictive drug. Despite the evidence that only about 1 in 10 who try it become addicted and that 5% a year spontaneously quit. If it was the drug no one would quit.

    A better model is “people in chronic pain chronically take pain relievers”. I don’t expect you to change. I don’t write this for you. I write for those who still have high endocannabinoid activity. People 15 to 25 or 30.

82. Wayne T Pickett Let me explain PTSD to you. It is in part genetic. Only 20% have the genes for long term PTSD. Se every sexually molested person is not going to get long term PTSD. And second PTSD requires trauma for initiation. 

    As to “seems extremely unlikely to be fact”. Well obviously you haven’t looked at the research. 

    I’m sorry you don’t like the facts. In fact my condolences that your world view has been disturbed. But kids will study this and come to their own conclusion.

    “Truth never triumphs — its opponents just die out. Thus, Science advances one funeral at a time” Max Planck

    But for the kids: “Lonny Shavelson Heroin PTSD”

    BTW some war veterans are asking for access to opiates for their PTSD.

83. Thank you MS S6808.
    Please see the second, edited comment below

84. This bloody site has more bugs than an ant hill – at least on an iPad. Here’s what it should’ve read
    —-
    MSimon 6808: I am afraid I must admit I’ve never seen any solid evidence that cannabis can cure cancer.
    We did not use it for that reason – We used it in the way I detailed: to help her with the vicious side effects of the highly- toxic chemotherapy.
    I have some pretty solid proof that it was the PNI which actually made the many and dangerous metastatic tumours disappear – the vast majority of them. (Before and after scans showed that the one hypnotherapy based PNI session which targeted 15 metastatic tumours on the liver, caused them to be destroyed).
    It was only the hidden or so called “occult “tumours which remained – and by definition these cannot be reached with the visualisation techniques involved in PNI. Obviously if you do not know it is there you cannot target it by visualising it and enabling an immune system-led attack.
    But I Thank you for the comment.

85. MSimon 6808: I am afraid I must admit I’ve never seen any solid evidence that cannabis can cure cancer.
    We did not use it for that reason – We use it in the way I detailed: to help her with the vicious side effects of the chemotherapy.
    I have some pretty solid proof that it was the PNI which actually made the many and dangerous metastatic tumours disappear – the vast majority of them. (Before and after scans showed that the one hypnotherapy based Pete and I session targeting 15 metastatic tumours on the liver, were destroyed).
    It was only the hidden or so called “occult “tumours which remained – and by definition these cannot be reached with the visualisation techniques involved in PNI. Obviously if you do not know it is there you cannot target it by visualising it and enabling an immune system-led attack.
    Thank you for the comment

86. Wayne T Pickett You probably know that cannabis can cure cancer. For sure some of them and maybe all of them. You would need to find out what cannabinoids the particular cancer responds to.

87. And just for the record, although I suffer serious chronic pain, I neither use nor suggest, promote nor encourage the use of illegal drugs.
    Unfortunately, I did have a much loved wife with stage four (terminal): cancer who benefited greatly from smoking or eating (cooked) marijuana – it helped with the pain, nausea, appetite, sleeping, mood – and in so many other ways and enabled her to continue to Endure the vicious toxicity of FOLFOX/FOLFORI chemotherapy and all the rest of the oncological torture she was subjected to for nearly 9 years (after prognosis of 3 to 6 months) – with a lot of help from techniques we developed ourselves based on solid scientific evidence-based psychoneuroimmunology – before mentally and emotionally she simply gave up and died.

88. I’m sorry I’m afraid that last statement simply fails the test of Occam’s razor. The very great majority of people including females have not repeat not being subjected to Talfourd sex abuse.
    Secondly, heroin/Diamorphine is not a “death drug”: it is successfully used in other parts of the world – and safely used at that, in places such as the United Kingdom for truly serious otherwise unresponsive pain. Any suggestion to the contrary is simply US governments and US media hype.
    Thirdly: anyone who suggests that heroin dealers are giving away or discounting the drug to “get people hooked”has obviously never met or talked to one – most of them are addicts & would be taking it themselves if they had any ” to spare”. They are not trying to “create markets”: people are beating their doors down to get the stuff.
    They would most certainly not be giving it away, nor in any circumstances do they need to (I might also add that tobacco/nicotine is far more addictive than heroin.– and an addiction to alcohol is far more dangerous– Don’t just believe me with any of this: just have a look at the numbers!).
    US ‘war on drugs’ is not only misnamed, it is a complete and dangerous nonsense – it is a war on their own citizens. It is also doing massive harm not just to its own society but to those of countries throughout the world – including those who produce opium, fund the Taliban, fund organised-crime, the Mexican and Colombian cartels… create massive (and very well paid) corruption due to massive profits created through its illegality & nothing else) and fill US jails with more otherwise innocent citizens than some of the worst and most vicious dictatorships on the planet
    The US as with much of the rest of the world – and as history has shown us with mankind itself – is a “drug using society “. People choose to alter their consciousness in search of an improvement of mood/relaxation/a “high”/or sometimes simply oblivion – as with many alcoholics. They always have. They always will.
    Constitutional amendment was required to make alcohol illegal in the US. Why was this not the case with all of these other drugs particularly with the massive individual and societal, familial harm that illegality itself causes- and, Apart from the cost of corruption, the truly massive costs involved directly with trying to enforce these unenforceable laws? Why does all this continue to happen, in fact escalate, when simple statistics will show that the morbidity and mortality rate involved with prescription and over-the-counter drugs is vastly higher than with all of the illegal drugs put together?
    To those pushing the government line, I say: Can none of you people think?

89. Sorry, MSimon, that seems extremely unlikely to be fact – in other words if you apply Occam’s razor, it falls apart: the very great , even vast majority of people Were NOT sexually molested as children.
    Best wishes,
    Wayne T
    PS in any event, this is a discussion about cannabis is it not?

90. freakalweek There is a good reason whole marijuana is better, the other main Cannabinoid in it is CBD which is good for nerve pain.  It also has a moderating effect on THC.

91. Wayne T Pickett Yes, exactly!  This is exactly why different wines taste different!  Hello!  The same for different beers, they are made from different hops (marijuana’s closest relative) with different flavors and different grains with different flavors… 
    I was comparing distilled booze like vodka to pharmaceuticals like TCH pills.  Both are missing a lot of what makes the whole herb marijuana, wine or beer good as well.  The only reason we “need to” make certain drugs into pills is because they are dangerous and if you take too much it will harm or kill you.  The pills are designed to limit your exposure to something toxic!  Considering how there isn’t anything toxic in whole herb marijuana, this point about needing to make it into a pill is nothing more than a red herring.  They are trying to limit people’s understanding that marijuana is non-toxic.

92. Moi_Encore HughYonn msimon6808 
    We sing from the same hymn book…  What now???
    Do you have a plan?
    ‘Our’ government … ain’t listening…
    How do we change this???

93. HughYonn msimon6808 Moi_Encore  How much would 1 lbs cost to grow your own Hot House tomatoes vs purchase?  (aside from time spent gardening)..
    Commercially-grown Cannabis average $10/lbs for those who chose not to grow their own or simply haven’t the means sounds like $10/lbs  more than pre-prohibition prices, as what we should be discussing.  Not prices based on short-sighted profit-geared bandwagon hoppers thinking ‘they’ own something that’s free for all.
    By tomorrow morning would be a start.

94. Cassie Miller msimon6808 Legalization in four states will be closely watched. Our current problem is that the users the media publicizes are those with severe PTSD who are self medicating. Look up the symptoms for PTSD and then compare them with the “couch potato” stereotype. The match is quite good.

    I’m old enough to remember the “drunk jokes” in the wake of the end of alcohol prohibition. (Dean Martin was the Cheech and Chong of that era). It will be another 30 years before the subject gets treated normally. And no amount of educating will change those over 30. Their brain plasticity is low due to a decline in endocannabinoid production. However, we have captured enough of them to get the laws changed. 

    We do need to keep educating to continue capturing the youth. But the odds of changing the mind of someone whose mind is made up are slim.

95. op25ttfd AronKay What you don’t know is that Dr. Lonny Shavelson found that 70% of female heroin users were sexually molested in childhood. It isn’t the drug. It is the pain.

96. AronKay It’s usually the dealer who has the heroin and cannabis that pushes the heroin onto his customers cause he knows if he can get them hooked they will do anything to make sure they keep paying him so they can keep using.

97. i am about to turn 65…i have been smoking pot since i was 16….well pot never led me to desire death drugs such as heroin…therefore lets legalize nature;s medicine

98. msimon6808  I came across that comment (subtle objection), while working Prop. 19 in California, too.  These people, after probing them further, had all known a “couch potato pot head.”  They needed to be educated that MOST cannabis users know how to USE, vs. ABUSE, and that we MUST as a society leave that freedom up to individuals, not govt, or before you know it they’ll be outlawing cheeseburgers so no one has heart attacks. To seal the argument, point out to these people individuals who were chronic cannabis users like:  Lincoln, Michael Phelps, and Steve Jobs (founder of Apple Computers).  These individuals (and there are hundreds of them who are famous) are PROOF that CANNABIS DOES NOT HURT THE BRAIN OR THE BODY, AND CERTAINLY SEEMS TO BE CONDUCIVE TO DIPLOMATIC AND CREATIVE SKILLS!

99. msimon6808 Witchwindy BenDMartinez Cassie Miller  Clean, as opposed to dirty (fuel, medicine, and food) IS POSSIBLE.  If you study history, the ONLY reason dirty and poisonous always win is GREED/PAID OFF POLITICIANS. This is true of: transportation (3 major car companies bought up the Red Line Railroad, in 1910ish, JUST TO SMASH IT UP, so we’d be forced to buy their cars), it’s true of FOOD (study Monsanto’s activity poisoning all of our food for profit), of medicine (follow pharm $ to politicians…) AND ENERGY.  We have enough solar, hydraulic and wind to run the whole country.  It’s just that these methods have been SHUT DOWN BY INFERIOR COMPETING INTERESTS, exactly as hemp/cannabis has been.  We can go to the moon, for God’s sake.  Our scientists can make CLEAN work just as easily as people made DIRTY resources work. It took Thomas Edison several hundred tries of substances before he found that it was CARBONATED CARDBOARD that would burn slowly and therefore work as a filament for a light bulb.  ‘same time/support is needed for CLEAN EVERYTHING.

100. msimon6808 54 years old, still tokin’ Most of the youth haven’t a clue regarding the history of this fine herb let alone its benefits on many levels. If by 2020 we’re (and I intend to be around) still debating this issue, then the problem is far deeper than opinion regarding pot! Elections results cannot be trusted in the first place, as some of us clearly recognize.

101. Moi_Encore HughYonn
     I’m with you…
     But, why should we have to fight for something that was never theirs to take away???

102. KirkSherrill 

     We are on the same page…
     Now, to make it happen…

103. msimon6808 HughYonn Moi_Encore 

     Under $10 a pound?
     Gee, I feel better now…

104. HughYonn msimon6808 Moi_Encore Hot house tomatoes go for under $10 na lb.

105. msimon6808 Moi_Encore HughYonn 

     The fastest way to end this fiasco…repeal and nullify ALL cannabis laws at the federal level.

     Take the government out of the equation…it does not belong…
     Cannabis is a plant… Just like lettuce and tomatoes…

106. Moi_Encore HughYonn msimon6808 Yes. In terms of restoration we have a long way to go.

107. HughYonn msimon6808 The 88% number was – for election purposes – bogus. The real number – likely voters – was around the mid 60s. In that respect a 10 point loss is not to bad a reversal. It also means we got 57% support.  Excellent. But not enough.

108. BobTownsend  ..a drop in the bucket so to say!  ;^)  Agreed!

109. HughYonn 
     HughYonn  So lets ALL get behind the MMAR Coalition Against Repeal here in Canada so we can take this federal gov’t & this quackery-endorsing Hellth Canada & their completely illegal racket of ‘commercial’ grower buddies to Supreme Court starting in February, 2015!
     We are going to assist Canada into forging the Cannabis laws BACK the way they should be.. protecting our rights & freedoms, as clearly defined in the Canadian Charter (AS WELL the American Constitution, btw), also in doing so, protecting our unhindered, unabashed rights to access & self-reliance for food & medicine by saving & preserving our personal gardens to grow what is personally required.  From juicing to self-oil extractions, cooking, vaping to puffing a small bowl before bed, the individual requirements are vast, diverse, and in NO WAY can be ‘limited’ by some ARBITRARY plant # limit, btw… so no restrictions (and IF there were to be ‘restrictions’, consider a 25-30 plant limit for all 18+ citizens, and if need be for more, a simple doctor’s note would suffice.  Many would simply grow a few plants or even just go & purchase what they require if they so-do desire to, but will ALWAYS have the protected choice to do so at will.
     Reversing illegal prohibition & returning Cannabis to every garden & farmer’s field & mandating Cannabis as a National Harvest in order to implement into as many markets as possible as an industrial staple, R&D the heck out of it, do this all in as exponential time frame as possible in order to give Canada a head start on this Global Cannabis Paradigm!
     Snooze ya loose.. Make this SO!

110. HughYonn msimon6808 
     Agreed!!!  Though…. Anything short of outright freeing the plant literally overnight (by sunrise the next morning) is simply NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!
     That’s about the same timeframe Cannabis was ‘removed’ from the global collective near a century ago.  Fix it once & fix it right the 1st time.
     We have our individual health as well the earth’s environment to save starting NOW!
     Next… ;^)

111. msimon6808 HughYonn 
     The ‘big blab’ on news channels in Florida:  ‘Medicinal marijuana will not pass.’

     A few short months ago, support was above 80%…
     I hope these ‘polls’ inspire folks to get out and vote…
     Voter apathy…our number one enemy…
     Re ‘…money and power.’ 
     Those didn’t help Eric Cantor… He had his no-name opponent out-gunned 10 to 1 in campaign dollars…didn’t help… Voters made the diff…that’s all it takes…

112. HughYonn msimon6808 I wish I could offer a way to move faster other than demographics. If we could get some second tier blogs to do some endocannabinoid articles… I’m down in third or fourth tier. Sorry.

     And don’t forget we are up against money and power. Given that, we aren’t doing too badly.

113. WhitneySuters There is no certainty that hemp ethanol will compete with oil as an energy source. But it is certainly worth some trials to see if the energy balance and costs are favorable. We probably won’t see those trials for 3 or 4 years. 

     The last thing I want to see is Government subsidies. Let the business make it on its own. That way no party can pull the rug from under the business. And the parties in office change regularly. I would not be against government financed trials though. 

     There is more than enough places where hemp makes economic sense to get us started.

114. msimon6808 HughYonn 

     We need to move faster…
     I’m in Florida… Medicinal marijuana is on the ballot today… I can only hope it passes…

     I cannot help…I lost my right to vote with a pot conviction… Please, change the laws before it happens to you…
     I wish you the very best…

115. HughYonn msimon6808 There is not a lot we can do about the lies except tell the truth and wait for death to claim the opposition.

     “Truth never triumphs — its opponents just die out. Thus, Science advances one funeral at a time” Max Planck

     Funny enough it is related to endocannabinoid production. It declines after age 25 or 30. And when it does it is very difficult for people to change their world view. We are now at the stage where we have the general population. Politics will catch up in 5 to 10 years. 

     Time IS on our side. As well as the evidence.

116. msimon6808 

     I’m 68 and have been ‘testing’ cannabis since age 21.
     I agree about the folks who want to turn it over to Big Pharma…they’ve been ‘indoctrinated’ that those are the ‘good guys’…even though they kill people…

117. msimon6808 HughYonn 

     But, I don’t want to wait another 30 years…
     This
     plant has been wrongfully outlawed since 1937…
     It’s time for the truth…

118. Pretty simple really whole plants (in the case of MJ) / a good genetic strain makes a massive difference whether it coffee marijuana or similar drugs.
     Best wishes to all

119. HughYonn The discovery of endocannabinoids will rank up there with Einstein’s discovery of Relativity. If you know the history you know that it took about 30 years until Relativity caught on. A certain German government used to refer to it derisively as “Jewish science”. And we have Raphael Mechoulam and a bunch of Israelis under his leadership to thank for this (mostly). The irony.

120. I am finding out that it is very difficult to teach old dogs new tricks. I’ll start discussing cannabinoid medicine about which I know a fair amount  http://rockford-for-safe-access.blogspot.com/ with “old” people who say that they are not against cannabis as medicine and they will start telling me things (like – single component cannabinoids will be developed by big pharma and eliminate the need for plant medicine) which are simply untrue. The entourage effect simply does not compute for them.And I have come up against this mind set frequently of late.

     I’m coming to the conclusion that most folks who say “I’m not against” are really against. Other wise elections would run 60/40 or 70/30 in our favor instead of 55/45 or 52/48.

     But that is OK. Death is improving our chances. At the rate of a million a year. By 2020 if we are still voting on the issue we will be getting 60/40 numbers. BTW I’m 70.

121. BobTownsend Dave Evans_Livefyre And that has what to do with coffee?

122. william conde Witchwindy Cassie Miller 
     Count me in for almost 5 decades.

123. msimon6808 hempmeister monaliesalot Cassie Miller Hz2P msimon, This is great information! Thanks for posting. This is a must read, all! 

     I agree with what you say about Christians who should support God’s green herb instead of locking people up for using it. They are not in harmony with God. As mentioned above 1 Timothy 4:1-3 describes this group. 

     As far as looking for dirt on the Jews… I’ve been able to work with several Jews throughout the years. Young and old. Wonderful people – everyone of them! Peace loving, creative, kind, fair, always looking out for the next guy, etc… no dirt from me, either!

124. Witchwindy BenDMartinez Cassie Miller 
     The answer is to study extensively and scale slowly. With government backing for studies only. Large scale must be profitable on its own. If not we get into the bind solar and wind are in where a new administration comes in and cuts the subsidies and there goes the industry. 

     Right now medical has the most promise for cost reductions. And those cost reductions can be achieved at small scale. A few thousand tons a year of the correct varieties would cure a LOT of cancers. Cancer right now is very expensive.

125. Witchwindy BenDMartinez Cassie Miller 
     “EVERY single thing made from petroleum can be made better from hemp” 
     Well I’m not so sure about that. And then you have to consider costs. And the cost of changing the feedstock. 
     It is very important not to oversell. Not to mention that we have no idea what the costs will be when the industry scales. Wind looked very promising – and then we scaled and found out that we have a problem. It does not integrate well with the grid which requires deliveries of known amounts of power for known lengths of time with no interruptions. Ooops. And then you have some turbine makers building units just barely good enough to capure the government subsidy. And then fail. And the better units Well the electricity costs too much given its variability.
     Lets not see that sort of thing from hemp. Under promise. Over deliver.

126. monaliesalot Cassie Miller cynthiavoelker  That’s o.k, I’m open… The M.R.I. I requested (finally I have medical insurance) to assess damages from a stroke I had 2 years ago (no fault of cannabis, and I don’t smoke cig’s, it’s my love for cheeseburgers and pizza and tacos : )).  For WEEKS after the stroke (which felt like someone strangling me to death and smashing a baseball bat into the left side of my head) I couldn’t add simple numbers, read a paragraph, or drive past 10 mph without spinning and blacking out.  That whole portion of my brain was PARALYZED.  You bet your ass that I went with instincts and ate cannabis like salad (and did mensa puzzle exercises, I’m mensa i.q.) in the weeks following my stroke, to train my brain to heal.  Now, no one can even detect I had a stroke, behaviorly OR via the M.R.I.  They don’t even believe me, lol.  Next they’re sending me to Stanford for memory tests, they find the case so interesting…
     Look up “Rick Simpson The Cure” and learn there how to grow and make your own oil.  I believe everyone should take the stuff to avoid cancer… Also algae tablets, LOTS per day, and avoid animal products (see the GREAT DOCUMENTARY “Forks Over Knives”…., you’ll want to go vegetarian after that).  Good luck : )

127. monaliesalot hempmeister Cassie Miller Hz2P  I actually agree with the scientists who believe that the “tree of life” is a reference to the D.N.A. strand…; but I sure appreciate the references in religious and history texts that prove that cannabis has been an openly VALUED plant ALL over the world for ALL of time (UNTIL ANSLINGER’S, HEARST’S, AND DUPONT’S LIES IN THE 1930-S…). I love that they used to BURY KINGS with CANNABIS SEEDS in the tombs….and that the plant is the only one that is sexed as is is…and that it is SO resilient that seeds years old can be planted and still grow 🙂

128. Witchwindy Cassie Miller I have been preaching those exact same words for at least two decades
     William Conde

129. Cassie your friends are right it is not the same at all. I agree with you and have been saying the same thing about why make us take something synthetic than natural. Its like they rather us ruin our health. My belief is that synthetic is never better. Well in this case definitely not better.

130. I look forward to the day that I can grow these plants in my front yard…they are beautiful trees…
     Take a drive through north central Kansas during the summer…hemp grows wild…in the ditches…along railroad tracks…some allowed to grow as windbreaks between ‘legal’ crops…all magnificent…

131. asdfxxx, the fact is the law prohibiting certain substances is itself illegal, it is not law, it has not the force of law because it is totally unconstitutional.  It required an amendment to the Constitution to give the government the power to prohibit alcohol, which (after they saw the damage the prohibition did to the nation as a whole, the law enforcement corruption that arose from it and all the deaths due to the prohibition, the passed and ratified another amendment to repeal the prohibition amendment).  No such amendment has been passed and ratified to allow the government to prohibit any other substances, there is no enumerated power granted by the Constitution for the government to criminalize these substances or their use by Americans and the government is supposed to do ONLY those things which are enumerated in the Constitution or is authorized by a properly passed and ratified amendment to the Constitution.  Ergo, the drug war is entirely unconstitutional, it is a violation of each individual’s unalienable right to self-ownership and self-determination.  The way we fight these unconstitutional statutes which the government tries to convince us are valid laws is by refusing to obey them and by nullifying them in court as jurors (finding the defendant not guilty, even if said defendant did do what the prosecutor says s/he did).  The next thing that needs doing is for the American people to remove ALL the people they’ve elected to the government who’ve proposed, supported or voted to pass any unconstitutional legislation or supported any unconstitutional actions by the fed gov, and taking each of them back to the districts that elected them for trial on the federal charge of violating their oath to the Constitution (a federal felony); then replacing each of them with someone who understands the limits the Constitution put on the fed gov and who will honor the office, the oath, the Constitution, and his/her constituents.  If those replacements at any time violate the oath, they must be removed too, until every single person elected to office at ANY level of government understands that they MUST obey the Constitution (and in local and State offices their State Constitution, too) if they want to remain in office with all the perks the office holds.  WAnt Constitutional government back, this is the only bloodless way to do it.

132. Repealing prohibition is the humane thing to do.

133. I don’t need to have an ailment I perceive in my body validated by a second party before beginning to treat it with an herb I grow in my back yard.

134. Cassie Miller, Hearst’s real reason was not racism it was hemp’s competition with his new wood pulp paper industry that was behind his desire to get cannabis/hemp made illegal. The only real difference between Cannabis sativa and hemp is the way it is grown, other than that they are virtually the same plant.  Hemp is planted densely so the plants grow tall and narrow, lost of stalk and fiber, the males are not removed so that fertilization can take place and seeds are produced for food and cooking oil (it could be used for all the kinds of fuel currently refined from crude petroleum, plus anywhere from 20,000-50,000 other uses, too).  While to grow the plant for medicinal and recreational uses the plants are planted with plenty of room to spread wide producing many stalks which will all produce colas (flowers), the males are removed so that fertilization does not take place so the female flowers do not produce seeds, a practice that increases the cannabinoids, especially the precursor to THC (THC is only created when enough heat is applied to the dried plant material).

135. william conde, I am 70 and I have experienced the same as you, I look and feel younger and I am healthier than my peers.  I am the only one (of my similar aged friends who don’t use the herb) that takes not a single pharmaceutical medication, I don’t even take OTC drugs except ibuprofen, occasionally, for muscle aches from working too hard in my yard or at the gym.  I’ve been a regular cannabis user since 1970.  My doctor is amazed by my condition at my age, and he is always asking me about cannabis,, when I visit for my annual well exam.

136. hempmeister monaliesalot Cassie Miller Hz2P 
     You might like an article I wrote on that about 3 years ago: http://classicalvalues.com/2011/09/hebrew-etymology/

137. monaliesalot hempmeister Cassie Miller Hz2P Seems as if Cannabis is/was an integral part of the Jewish worship service. One of the 5 essential ingredients in God’s Holy Anointing oil!  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_anointing_oil
     The men of the earth have since outlawed God’s Holy Oil. It’s also worth noting that the work sorcery used in Revelation 18:23 is translated in Bible concordances to be… Pharmacia!

138. Cotton growers & stupidity, mainly: it is a vastly easier to grow and harvest then, it produces a far superior cloth, actually has real and important medicinal value and uses vastly less valuable water – it is after all a WEED, it will grow almost anywhere and in most conditions although obviously in some it will thrive in some it will simply survive, growing but probably not growing well – certainly not to its fullest potential…
     Best to all
     Wayne T

139. Dave Evans_Livefyre BobTownsend Well other than the fact your reply really makes no sense (other than a jumble of unrelated analogies) it really has nothing to do with the point being made with my post.  To rephrase it better for you, there are a number of very useful medical compounds found in cannabis other than thc, and the combination of compounds actually make plant derived cannabis more useful than single chemical synthetic thc.

140. Cassie Miller cynthiavoelker congrats on that mri, kinda wonder why they did one but no business of mine.  I’m hoping the plant goes legal all fifty states soon, Im much more interested in treatment with the oil than any chemo they can come up with.  Or even laser surgery,  Cancer sucks
     My problem with it is that if I were to attempt to heal myself then I can expect the police military to knock in my door an haul me to jail then take everything I own an worked for all my life.  They truly do love the goodies of a drug bust, kinda like a perk for a job well done.  Terrible part of it is I am hurting no one just attempting to heal something the medical community cant heal…..the thought “my life or their law?”  brings memories of the Salem witch trials.

141. hempmeister Cassie Miller Hz2P Some Israelis refer to the cannabis plant as the tree of life as it can be used for just about all life’s needs.  Also they say a word describing said geen seed plant was not translated properly into the KJV but in proper translation it is something like canna?  And it is also said this plant would be taken from us for some years but near the end of these times the truth of the plant willl be made known.  Seems many bibical facts are coming out now as truths…..

142. When cannabis
     laws are repealed worldwide, mankind will take a HUGE step forward … 
     It will be as big as learning to make fire…

143. When cannabis
     laws are repealed worldwide, mankind will take a HUGE step forward … 
     It will be as big as learning to make fire…

144. imwithstupid hempmeister hemp is legal to grow in Ky now but you need a license an I think the only one issued this crop season was to Ky University?  The DEA stopped the delivery of the hemp seeds from Italy the beginning of this year, it took an act of congress to force the DEA to release the seeds an now I believe the DEA cannot stop sales of the seed anymore.  But cannabis is still illegal

145. william conde HughYonn 

     Is cannabis legal in Belize?
     I go now to visit your websites… many thanks for the info..

146. msimon6808 william conde HughYonn 
     It really is a small world. 
     A million thanks to you both for your comments…I do so look forward to the repeal and nullification of ALL cannabis laws…
     I’ve never understood why we should have to fight for something that was not ‘theirs’ to take away…

147. william conde HughYonn I had the honor of spending an afternoon with Jack in the 90s when he visited Rockford. Just turned 70 a month ago.

148. BobTownsend

149. There is far more to cannabis than THC, just as there is far more to a fine cup of coffee than caffeine and hot water.

150. Cassie Miller Hz2P Fair enough. For those who are part of the religious clan in Congress that are against cannabis/hemp I would offer this: According to the Bible, three profound changes occurred at the beginning of our world; Creation – Genesis 1:29, The Fall of man – Genesis ch 3:18, and The Flood – Genesis 9:3. During each of these profound events God took time out from all that was going on to instruct, and even command man to eat a diet consisting of a green seed-bearing herb. It was to be used as “meat.” 
     Genesis 1: 31 – “And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.” KJV.

     Not only did this herb survive the Fall of man, it also survived the Flood! In Genesis 9 God changes mans diet to include (certain) animals. Even with this drastic change to our world we see God once again instructing man to continue on with the green herb as a part of their diet. 

     One could easily conclude that hemp seeds which come from a green seed-bearing herb, is the “meat” mentioned in the Scriptures above. Hemp seeds could also be God’s solution to eliminating world hunger. Are there any Christian groups that embrace and use/promote a green seed-bearing herb as God instructed? 

     In the New Testament we read about those who continue to keep God’s green herb out of the hands of the people. 
     1 Timothy 4:1 “Now the Spirit expressly says, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
     3 … and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.” Yikes!

     A Bible with a comprehensive cross reference will link the word “meat” in 1 Timothy 4:3 back to the word “meat” in Genesis 1:29, – the green seed-bearing herb. (Most recent Bible versions have eliminated this cross reference link.)

151. freakalweek  I run a hemp site.  Several people have also said that Marinol is not as helpful as the pure cannabis plant.  ‘course, WHY WOULD IT BE?  ANY time you process something in nature, it ruins it.

152. cynthiavoelker  I recently had a brain M..R.I. done.  I’m 52, and the Neurosurgeon told me I have the “brain of a 30 year old.”  Also, studies show that “pot smokers” of the 60’s are NOT getting ALZHEIMERS as are their non pot smoking peers.  CANNABIS IS A NEUROPROTECANT, which is why the U.S. govt. has a PATENT on the CBD’S from the plant CALLING it a “Neuroprotectant!!!”

153. NormanGooding  That’s true.  In my opinion, we should first argue that it’s a STATE’S RIGHTS ISSUE; then when the general public becomes aware that cannabis is a POSITIVE commodity, we should FREE THE PLANT ENTIRELY to its rightful owners–i.e. everyone on the planet!

154. asdfxxx Hz2P  You have a lot to learn.  Sometimes the “good guys” are really the bad guys.  You’re lucky you’ve had a life that has protected you from knowing this, but most of us know better….

155. gratefulseeds  This is a battle of GOVT. TYRANNY VS. THE PLANET’S PEOPLE. It’s the same battle that’s being fought over our food supply, what little water is left on the earth, the oil, etc.  The heads of states of various countries got together (in the 1960’s?) and made a pact to include cannabis on the list of natural resources they want to control.  This is going to take a FULL FORCE, GHANDI STYLE, REBELLION OF THE PEOPLE to overturn!

156. william conde  Seriously! ….and it certainly could put a dent in solving our global warming problem if we planted cannabis everywhere and used its products for: fuel, fiber, paper, medicine…..

157. KipKotler  ..and let’s not forget that the U.S. GOVT. has a PATENT on CBD’S, admitting that it has such BECAUSE it finds CANNBIS to be an extraordinary agent against super bugs AND an extraordinary neuroprotectant!  I posted the patent earlier in this feed..

158. MikeParent  Also see Nixon’s Shaffer Committee Report:
     Even Nixon’s Shafer Committee (and you KNOW which way NIXON wanted that to come out!) concluded that cannabis is SAFE and that GOVT. has no business intervening with such HERB! http://www.csdp.org/news/news/nixon.htm

159. JimmyTee1  Hey, you might be interested to know (I’m posting below) that even Nixon’s Shaffer Committee concluded that GOVT. HAS NO BUSINESS interfering with cannabis rights (because it’s valuable and with little or no social welfare downside).  Also, what is “RICO?”
     Even Nixon’s Shafer Committee (and you KNOW which way NIXON wanted that to come out!) concluded that cannabis is SAFE and that GOVT. has no business intervening with such HERB! http://www.csdp.org/news/news/nixon.htm

160. hempmeister  and yet, though the H.H.S. is REQUIRED BY LAW to disclose such medicinal benefits to the D.E.A. so that the D.E.A. can schedule it on The Controlled Substances Act accordingly (or not schedule it there at all accordingly), the H.H.S. CONTINUALLY DENIES the medical benefits of CANNABIS! Then, the U.S. Govt. CONTRADICTS itself by claiming all the great benefits of cannabis when they apply for a PATENT on cannaboids because of its tremendous anti-oxident affects! http://christiansagainstprohibition.org/US_Government_Patent_6630507__Cannabinoids_as_Antioxidants_and_Neuroprotectants

161. hempmeister  Here you can learn some of the valuable uses of hemp, the history of its use, and a bit about how just 3 corrupt, ulterior motive men took this commodity away from We the People in the 1930’s: http://www.facebook.com/notes/charlie-brent/the-key-to-victory-is-education-82-cannabis-historical-factsclick-the-link-the-s/145803248790708

162. db0078 asdfxxx Hz2P  That’s right!  Harry Anslinger was NEVER acting in good faith–not when he wrote the later declared unconstitutional  “Marijuana Tax Act of 1937,” and not when he turned around in 1970 as D.E.A. and personally stuck cannabis on Schedule 1 of the Controlled Substance Act.  His lack of good faith is PROVEN by the fact that the D.E.A. continually works for the PHARMACUETICALS by placing SYNTHECIZED/PATENTED CANNABIS (MARINOL) ON SCHEDULE 3, which ADMITS the medicinal value of cannabis while implying it has little or no risk of addiction.
     The Dept. of Health and Human Services is supposed to, EVERY 2 YEARS, make a recommendation to the D.E.A. as to what drugs should be on which schedule.  They have DENIED the OVERWHELMING evidence that cannabis is of medicinal value in addition to overlooking the elephant in the room that MARINOL is on Schedule 3.  Can you say BOUGHT OFF?

163. Witchwindy asdfxxx Hz2P  AMEN.  (I’m quoting the U.S. Constitution OFF MEMORY here…), “ANYTHING NOT SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED AS AN ISSUE THAT FALLS UNDER FEDERAL POWER AUTOMATICALLY IS TO BE A STATES’ RIGHTS ISSUE.”

164. DebbieLeeBrown asdfxxx Hz2P  I’ll second that!  The legal representation that we’re supposedly all entitled to per the U.S. Constitution ONLY belongs to THE RICH!

165. Hz2P  Hey, Hz2P:  I’ve corresponded with a lot of Congressmen about this subject the last few years.  While no doubt some of the naysayers on cannabis are paid off, I have to tell you that my take is the same as Barney Frank’s, i.e. “There are two subjects about which Congress KNOWS LESS than the general population, i.e. banking and cannabis.”  Most of our Congressmen stayed away from any illegal drugs going through school because they knew it would cost them their careers.  THEY DON’T KNOW the truth/facts.  It’s our job to educate them.  Yes, though, it’s difficult for them to accept, much less admit, that the “good guys” aren’t always the good guys.  I’m finding this to be the case with my own California Senator, Dianne Feinstein.

166. Witchwindy BenDMartinez Cassie MillerAbsolutely, Witchwindy.  ‘LOTS of competing interests–Rockefeller”s Standard Oil….; Today it’s the PHARMS’s who want a monopoly marketing cannabis as Marinol and Govt. who has patents on CBD’s and actually sells it through their subsidiary “Kannaway”….  Cannabis is an EXTREMELY VALUABLE and DIVERSE COMMODITY–which is the REAL reason greedy people who own corporations have tried so hard to oppress the hemp industry!

167. weed_the_people hempmeister WhitneySuters Thanks for clearing this up – and through a cartoon no less!

168. BenDMartinez Cassie Miller Ben, for HEASRT (newspaper giant) it was about racism.  He used people’s hate against Mexicans, implying that cannabis=immorality=should be deported.  Hearst is the one who coined the term “Marijuana,” to make the herb sound MEXICAN.

169. hempmeister WhitneySuters Technically, 1938 is correct. The Marihuana Tax Act was passed near the very end of the 1937 legislative session and the federal bureaucracy needed a couple months to get ramped up. The first federal arrests began, consequently, in 1938.

170. RickSteeb Nice reference! For anyone unsure of where to start their research, may I suggest my book Weed the People: From Founding Fiber to Forbidden Fruit, available on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Weed-People-Founding-Fiber-Forbidden/dp/1938567919/ref=sr_1_1_twi_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1414770532&sr=8-1&keywords=weed+the+people
     Sorry, just couldn’t resist.

171. WhitneySuters hempmeister Great little video! Love the look, narration and the music! (Question: The video mentions 1938 as the year cannabis/hemp was outlawed – even though we thought it was the 1937 Marijuana Tax that did the plant in…

172. hempmeister It looks a little like that scary Cannabis. Nevermind that it is the most useful plant ever, and would be a cash crop for our farmers. I can’t wait to build a hempcrete house. They can last hundreds of years.because they actually petrify over time.

173. hempmeister http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QtE5u8t6p4

174. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QtE5u8t6p4          good lil vid  with some historical perspective  mentioning the likes of henry ford , duponts, and others

175. hempmeister Cronyism, ignorance, and of late the alcohol and pharmaceutical lobbies

176. hempmeister Schedule I for legal (punishment, confiscation) purposes. Not a narcotic for medical reasons, primarily non-addictive.

177. The fact that this is a medical issue at all is due to in large measure to NORML’s perennial claims so it is fitting that this is the crescendo. Whether the results have any real nationwide legal bearing before I push up daisies is another matter entirely.

     As one who thinks this issue is a matter of liberty first and health second, I left NORML after a brief stint many years ago. While addressing the “pot problem” in this way – and I know for a fact that it is 100% true to say grass has health benefits and can aid the symptoms of many medical conditions –  all this mass movement of late will make not one real dent in the primary problem, that being a person’s right to eat, drink, or ingest whatever however they please. 

     I understand this “back way in” is having success and that very soon “medical marijuana” will be a reality nationwide. This still will not allow the people who are not sick the legal right to smoke.  The immediate effect will be further lies, otherwise healthy smokers having to come up with ailments they otherwise never would have had.

     Why not just stop lying, as NORML people should, and say the truth? Why not just walk the walk about being the free-est place in the world, rather than just talking the talk? ANY CRIME, and TORT a person can commit against anyone else, or anyone else’s property, ALREADY exists as a crime. THERE ARE ALREADY laws in place for EVERY possible “bad” thing that can result from cannabis consumption. 

     I’m not crazy about the back door myself. I prefer the normal entry. Seems cleaner.

178. I was in Federal Prison with Brother Louv and several of his followers from the
     Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church in the 1980’s.  We had all been convicted of
     marijuana offenses…separate cases.
     While in prison together, I read hundreds of pages of the transcript from his
     trial. Many are available on the web today.
     His defense team was headed by former US Attorney General, Ramsey Clark. 
     The panel of ‘expert witnesses’ presented in his defense included the foremost
     authorities in medicine of that era. The overwhelming amount of evidence
     documenting the medicinal benefits of marijuana was staggering.
     And, that was in the early 1980’s. Now, fully 30 years later, the same lame
     arguments are still being paraded.
     How pathetic.

179. johnhunterplayer mike_milew I was taken to a police station about 40 years ago and was shown their “collection” and asked if I wanted any. I said “no”. I’m no dummy. Ultimately me and the girlfriend were sent on our way.

180. johnhunterplayer msimon6808 WhitneySuters They deserve it. But I’m going with:”With malice towards none” they will surrender easier that way.

181. Not sure this matters: According to the CSA schedule cannabis isn’t considered a narcotic. http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/orangebook/e_cs_sched.pdf

182. OK first I personally take Marinol and it is not the same. Marinol is mostly used for keeping weight on and making you hungry. One pill can make me hungry for 2 days but it does not let me repeat does not help with pain. If so I wouldn’t be on so many narcotics. Smoking Cannabis does help with pain and I would like the choice between a natural herb Cannabis than these toxic narcotics that I despise. Please help us. Thank you

183. JimmyTee1 really well said brotha, i agree and its sickening that people are still so ignorant about this wonderful plant. We only pray their lies & deceit will back fire ..& soon 🙂

184. asdfxxx Hz2P Unless a law complies with the Constitution it is not a law at all, it is merely a statute that no one is compelled to obey.  The prohibition of cannabis (and other drugs, too) is clearly unconstitutional, the fed gov was never granted the power by the Constitution to regulate let alone prohibit ANY ingestible substance.  So the prohibition of drugs, the CSA, and all agencies and statutes related to any of that, well they are ALL illegal, the governments (federal and State) have been engaged in a clearly illegal, unconstitutional suppression of the rights of the people for the past 77 years.

185. BenDMartinez Cassie Miller Racism was only a small part of it.  The major reason was the competition faced by Hearst’s timber/wood pulp business, DuPont’s synthetic fiber business, the petroleum oil business (which Cassie left out) from hemp (hemp makes a better, longer lasting paper; better, longer lasting fabrics; and greener, cleaner, less expensive, and better fuels, actually EVERY single thing made from petroleum can be made better from hemp), and Anslinger’s fear of losing his power in addition to his rabid racism.

186. ~ It occurred to me that the argument can be made, that the
     U.S. government in the form of the FDA the DEA, is guilty of RICO act violations.
     The criminal enterprise is the continued violation of the civil rights of cannabis users in States where in has been made a Legal Substance.
     Predicate acts, beginning with the attempt to influence the Shafer
     commission on Nixon’s own tapes, the fraud committed by placing cannabis
     in Schedule I when the inappropriateness of that classification was
     well known, even on to the SCOTUS refusing to intervene, the stress
     inflicted on cannabis users from the constant threat of loss and
     violence is an ongoing act of terrorism, and that’s just since
     overturning the unconstitutional tax stamp act.
     And after more
     than forty years of effort, at the expense of the American people, in
     taxes, in freedom, and in loss of faith in the government, they still
     have not proven one the False, Fictitious and outright Racist claims
     against the herb to place it on the #1 Schedule.
     The continuing
     criminal enterprise denying States from allowing basic civil rights of
     truth in justice, still maintains, arbitrarily, capriciously, and
     without evidence, that cannabis, a particularly effective and versatile
     medicinal herb, is a dangerous drug. It is not.
     By Definition; a Terrorist organization.

187. “anti-convulsive remedy of the greatest value”  Look THAT up…

188. Cannabis shall be removed from CSA “Schedule I”, and placed in “CSA Subchapter I, Part A, §802. Definitions, paragraph (6)”, appended to the list “distilled spirits, wine, malt beverages, or tobacco”, where it will STILL be the least-toxic in the category [by several orders of magnitude].  
     In other words, EXEMPT from CSA scheduling.
     Anything short of THAT is UNACCEPTABLE.
     http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/21cfr/21usc/802.htm

189. Why is hemp illegal?

190. asdfxxx Hz2P Are you blind? Have you not heard of the prison system? Science and logic should decide what the laws are, instead it is our fascist government and old white religious people who create laws so that they can MAKE MONEY and enforce their religious ideals. Wake up man, “illegal is illegal” HA! You would blindly follow the law without question and support unjust laws? You and the people like you are the problem with this world.

191. Cassie Miller The real truth Cassie it was because of racism. It works like that today. 1920s way of thinking is going on in a lot of places .The real crime was covered up and since this rug gets removed you expose the underlying filth. The real reason cannabis was kept in a schedule class 1. This nonsense just got passed off to all of us. It took hate to get old and die before it could change.

192. How IRONIC that Wong would attempt to correlate toxic pesticides to cannabis-which IS and DOES “GROW LIKE WEEDS,’ NO PESTICIDES NECESSARY. It is cannabis’s COMPETITIVE commodity, i.e. COTTON, that USES 1/3RD OF THE PESTICIDES ON THE PLANET!
     P.S. Pro-cannabis Attorneys:  You still need to TELL THE STORY OF HOW CANNABIS GOT ON SCHEULE 1 IN THE FIRST PLACE!  It was merely 3 CORRUPT men (DuPont, Hearst and Anslinger) in 1937, then the same Anslinger/D.E.A. in 1970 when his 1937 “Marijuana Tax Act” was declared unconstitutional in the U.S. Supreme Ct. vs. Timothy Leary in 1969!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

193. mike_milew lol i wish there as just a few hundred ready to raid a police station for our bags back.

194. Sudaloo we are winning this bro.

195. msimon6808 WhitneySuters put the Nazi police in jail with the murderers and rapist. see how they like it.

196. asdfxxx Hz2P  You need to understand these laws were based on lies. The creators and enforcers need to be held accountable for not acting faster to resolve the problem. Why is it the American people are forced into submission when the laws were unfairly based to begin with. That’s what causes rebellion and I believe we are on the brink of it now if our government doesn’t get it stuff together STOP lying, START doing the job you’ve been elected to or justice will find you the hard way.

197. asdfxxx DebbieLeeBrown Hz2P Without looking at any studies negates anything that you might have to say regarding this matter. read the studies and find unbiased information to enlighten yourself with.

198. http://www.livefyre.com/profile/67478092/ a law is unjust, the people have the right to
     pursue a course of civil disobedience. This tenet is at the heart of our
     constitution. With a minimal amount of research you would find that cannabis
     prohibition was used as a means of keeping people of color separate from
     whites; a government sanctioned Jim Crow law at its worst. So according to your
     comment, we should continue to support the Jim Crow mentality by abiding with a
     racist, unjust law. As for your comment about “people who do so because they
     want to,” seems to imply that users of cannabis for recreation are somehow inferior
     to those who use it for medicine. Let’s call a spade a spade. Cigarettes and
     alcohol are used for recreation despite the fact that both cigarettes and
     alcohol kill hundreds of thousands of people every year, costing tax payers
     billions in healthcare cost, and have significantly higher addiction rates.
     While, cannabis’ addiction rate is equal to caffeine, has never killed anyone,
     and as we are finding out, has tremendous medicinal benefits (even for those
     who enjoy it recreationally). If I choose to self-medicate with cannabis to
     help me sleep or relieve stress, how is that any different than those who have
     a glass of wine at the end of the day? I think you are going to be left
     standing alone in the field when the light of truth behind the systematic subversion
     of truth is finally revealed to the public.

199. Let’s hear from the govt experts the DEA;
     In 1988, DEA Administrative Judge Francis Young wrote in his ruling;
     “Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within a supervised routine of medical care.”
     http://www.ccguide.org/young88.php

200. william conde well said brotha 🙂

201. asdfxxx Hz2P its illegal & it should never have been… dont be so blind! illegal is a form of control, & our majority voice world wide proves that cannabis shouldn’t be illegal at all. schedule 1 is the biggest LIE of all & its about to change.

202. asdfxxx DebbieLeeBrown Hz2P “The point is that when laws are broken people go to jail” 
     That’s what we have jury nullification for. When the laws are unjust, and someone has broke an unjust law, they shouldn’t have to go to jail. Problem is that the courts haven’t allowed evidence to be presented to show that , that particular law, is unjust.
     Your statement would have been much more accurate if you would have said that when laws are broken POOR people go to jail…..We all know what happens when rich and famous people break the law.

203. Marijuana is currently defined as a schedule 1 controlled substance meaning it is a dangerous drug and has no medicinal benefits (even though the NIH ( National Institute of Health) filed for the patent stating the cannabinoids could treat diseases like Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, HIV and could limit damage in strokes and trauma.) 
     The government wants to have sole control of the cannabis patent  and that others have requested it and haven’t received it. However, several mainstream pharmacology companies( ( $$ ) have received patents including GW Pharmaceuticals (GWPH_),

     The NIH ( National Institute of Health)  would protect its cannabinoid patent if it had to — adding to the irony that one agency within the Department of Health and Human Services will protect its ability to make money off of cannabis, while another HHS agency, the Food and Drug Administration declares marijuana a dangerous drug.
     The FDA under it’s current admiistration (Know’s Medical Cannabis is useful as a Medicine).As they supply it to  Irvin Rosenfeld & other’s. 

     Pot from the feds ( NEWS & “POLITICS” ) :
     The FDA runs a medical marijuana IND program (the Compassionate Investigational New Drug program :Link; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassionate_Investigational_New_Drug_program )
      It stopped accepting new patients in 1992 after public health authorities concluded there was no scientific value to it, and due to President George H.W. Bush administration’s desire to “get tough on crime and drugs.” As of 2011, four patients continue to receive cannabis from the government under the program.

     Kip
     https://www.facebook.com/pages/Idabs

204. Reparations for the Schedule I enforcers that continue to protect intellectual property and breeders rights.

205. Reparations?

206. DebbieLeeBrown asdfxxx Hz2P My comment was about someone saying prisons are overcrowded and lives are ruined etc.  I think it should be legalized.  I’ve never tried it myself, but I know it to be generally harmless.  At least no more so than alcohol and cigarettes.  The point is that when laws are broken people go to jail.  And without looking at any sort of studies i would imagine that the people that smoke pot because they need to is a fraction of the amount of people who do so because they want to do so.

207. The  only scheduling for marijuana should be to schedule when to plant and harvest

208. asdfxxx Hz2P And if you found yourself in a position of living a life worth living and doing something harmless, but illegal  vs   a life full of side effects like vomiting, constipation, allergic reactions, mind so numb you drool on yourself and have no idea what year it is, can’t walk straight, sleep or even talk clearly from pain that is never ending…would it’s legal status really matter that much to you. What if you were having seizures on a daily basis and cannabis is all that worked to stop them without leaving you a chemical vegetable? What if you had a dear friend bleeding out and the speed limit to the hospital was on 15 MPH, would you do it, or would you break the law and speed to get him there on time? Should someone go to jail for that? Just because something is illegal, doesn’t mean that it’s always wrong. Just because you’ve done something that is illegal, doesn’t mean you should go to jail either. It’s illegal to spit on the side walk here, should someone go to jail for that?

209. Hz2P Illegal is illegal.  People who break laws go to jail.  Just because it’s harmless doesn’t change the fact that it’s illegal.  When you choose to live in a country you have to abide by its laws until they change.

210. the lies are being called out & this ridiculous prohibition of cannabis will soon be over , Schedule 1 is def not gonna last!!

211. GibsonJ95 I looked at the drug schedule yesterday…cannabis does not even belong in the bottom schedule of 5…cannabis is a food and nutritional supplement…grapes are food until fermented…cannabis is food/herb/plant and when heated properly it’s like a wine…cannabis should be scheduled as grapes are…

212. WhitneySuters Let the jails go empty. As a reminder.

213. Hz2P It does seem odd that they have a definitely 2nd rate unprepared lawyer in charge of the government’s case. Or one who is intentionally screwing up. 

     But I’ll go with your point. As long as it gets off schedule one. 

     The crimes are too widespread for any kind of real prosecution and the original perpetrators are long dead. I’m with Lincoln on this. “With malice towards none.” As long as the war is over. And the POWs are released.

214. class action lawsuit filed on behalf of all americans who have been negatively effected by the war on cannabis and hemp,  the  settlement could be a redistribution of the 4.5 billion dollars a year given to law enforcement through several grants written by in a bill by jon kerry.  the police state can also forfeit all their equipment and the jails can be cleaned out and renovated into housing for the homeless and poor,

215. Hz2P If marijuana got legalized tomorrow, nobody will have to answer for the 70+ years you’re referring to. History is history, let’s just move forward.

216. It does not matter what Schedule they move marijuana to as long as they take it out of Schedule 1 and the DEA loses control of the science,,the science will remove it from the CSA entirely.
     The admission by the government that marijuana has medical applications should get it removed from Schedule 1 without further hearings or testimony but now the government has to disprove,with science,the relative safety of marijuana claimed by these doctors.
     The testimony we are waiting on is the government witness and her “science” to prove marijuana is a dangerous addictive drug,,something the government has never done with 46 years of bought science to prove they have looked everywhere for harm and it just ain’t there..

217. mike_milew The problem with marches is that plenty of us that use cannabis for medical purposes, aren’t capable of marching. I am, however, quite capable of voting…

218. mike_milew The numbers are coming at the voting booth. Much harder to refute than marches. “I ain’t marching anymore”.  And how do you get those votes? Education. For which the ‘net is a fine medium.

219. We’re getting there! Vote Yes on 2 in Florida!

220. What are they try drop it down to what schedule

221. I just wish there were millions ready to march to end prohibition. Internet comments do nothing. We need numbers NO ONE can refute.

222. Open mouth, insert foot! Amazing how the study the US has been doing proves medical use and it was used to support the defense. That in itself shows how ridiculous this whole thing is.

223. it is time to stop living in the 1930s and join the rest of us in 2014. Marijuana has helped me with the MS I did NOT ask for and my husband that the US Government sent to Viet Nam in 1968 and now suffers with PTSD every day that goes by. I also suffer with him and his PTSD because at times it gets really bad and as his wife, I suffer knowing what he goes through. In every sense of it all, we both suffer and we both know that smoking marijuana helps us both. For the US Government to try and tell me what to do to help alleviate my spastisty and him to alleviate his nightmares that no amount of counseling has ever helped, how dare they. These are people who have always lived with rose colored glasses on and know NOTHING about the real world. They all will answer for it to God and I would not be in their shoes for any amount of money. I just hope these mid-term elections will see some drastic change and we get people who are not to chicken crap to vote for what is right for ALL people.

224. Was this recorded? If so, can you provide a link to it?

225. Bravo….. to all the hard work being done on behalf of the sick and suffering.
     Thank you to the brave Doctors and to the wonderful attorneys who are assisting in ending this needless persecution of the sick and dying over political gamesmanship.
     On behalf of the Veterans and Disabilities community  we applaud your efforts to bring honesty to this discussion.
     http://www.veteransforcompassionatecare.org

226. Quality control is growing sustainably, organically, without any synthetics or pesticides. Easily done with microbial teas, malted barley teas, essential oils, neem, and sprout teas. Do some research, build the soil biology along with the eco-system.

227. Brilliant, gentlemen, brilliantly done. This trio of posts is fantastic.

228. EVERY ONE JUST SHOW UP AND VOTE YES ON 2

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